Cymbal sounds: Special Janavars

Talking about the Special Janavar cymbals I mentioned in my last cymbal post— it's a new series I'm selling through my Cymbalistic site, and I'm really excited about them. I want one of these for myself, but I'm in business, allegedly, and need to sell them.  

Cymbal & Gong's Janavar series is a new Turkish made B20* cymbal inspired by a 1960s European B8 line, that was revived in recent years. Both series are full bodied, lighter cymbals for pop music. The original '60s cymbals came out before the big 1970s cymbal industry move to heavier cymbals for pop and rock, and were discontinued as the heavier cymbals became the norm. 

* - B20 bronze is the type associated with Turkish and Turkish-style cymbals; B8 bronze is associated
with machine produced cymbals— many student lines, and several professional lines made by Paiste. 

The Special Janavars have a heavy patina with green highlights, that dries the sound significantly. They look and sound like they've been living in a night club for 40ish years. They handle beautifully— they're very responsive, with great definition. The regular Janavars are straightforward, bright and full, the Special ones are more focused, and not without complexity. They're good contrasting cymbals paired with a Holy Grail or other darker jazz cymbal. 

We've only made a few of them, but so far the sound ranges from a lovely “vintage A” sound: 

To a wilder, almost exotic sound. 

You can click over to the other post to check out video of the 22" model with rivets, which I think is lovely.

The match is not exact, but the less exotic ones remind me of Philly Joe Jones's cymbal on Milestones— a 50s “A. sound.” 

Or Jack Dejohnette's cymbal on Freddie Hubbard's straight life: 

You can hear Jack frequently accenting the cymbal, and it dies and gets out of the way quickly— it gives an exciting accent sound, but doesn't build up. The Special Janavars handle similarly.  

So far we are only doing the special thing with 20 and 22" Janavars. The normal Janavar line also includes 15 and 16" hihats, 18" crashes, and 24" rides. I'm most interested in special-ordering some off size cymbals for this treatment: 17" crashes, 19 and 21" rides.